There's No Playbook | Evan Hughes, VP of Growth at Refine Labs

Paid‑search vet Evan Hughes calculates stress as “pipeline gap ÷ realistic capacity.” He shares the deep-work timer that tames Slack, the long runs that give birth to campaign ideas, and the lesson that a sustainable pace beats heroic spurts.

Key Takeaways
• Ask “At what cost?” before stretching goals.
• Slack‑off blocks double deep‑work quality.
• Running acts as brainstorming engine.
• Leaders need private spaces to unload invisible stress.
• Legacy > quarterly numbers—mentor, don’t martyr.

Timestamps
00:01 – Intro: forever “why?” kid
04:27 – Busy vs. productive math
08:50 – Deep‑work timer breakdown
13:23 – Running‑powered ideation
18:31 – Public break‑blocking on calendars
22:02 – Quota vs. capacity reality check
26:00 – Coaching healthy work rhythms
30:10 – Fitness‑fueled creativity hacks
34:49 – Redefining success & legacy
39:42 – Outro & LinkedIn hook

Links
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