Jason Widup went from white‑knuckle anxiety to an eight‑hour‑sleep evangelist—and his team is better for it. In this episode, he and Jolie trade notes on self‑doubt, parenting curveballs, and why a morning workout beats doom‑scrolling every time. If you’re leading with an empty battery, press play before you press send.
Key Takeaways
• Anxiety wears many masks—naming it is step one
• Sleep, sweat, and salads: the simplest stack for mental clarity
• Swap coping vices for habits that compound confidence
• Leaders who model boundaries give teams permission to do the same
• Tiny daily reflections = big, lasting growth
Timestamps
00:00 – Anxiety, leadership & the moment Jason hit pause
02:10 – What anxiety really looks like in high achievers
06:31 – Trading unhealthy crutches for healthier rituals
11:16 – From late‑night beers to 6 AM burpees
19:28 – The trinity: sleep, exercise, nutrition
26:19 – Vision boards & micro‑habits
27:21 – Self‑compassion > self-criticism
32:06 – Quieting impostor syndrome with data and daylight
39:49 – Designing a culture that protects personal time
47:09 – Normalizing mental health talk at work
Links
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